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post May 10 2005, 05:22 PM
Ever had one of those days when you just stare at the computer for hours and still can't come up with a design or an idea? I was having trouble with this for quite some time. Than I noticed that on some occasion it was purely because I just didn't have enough information on my hand. Well, that has solved 50% of the problem. But I still do get stuck occasionally. How do the rest of the cre8ive designers here deal with it?
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post May 10 2005, 06:12 PM
Hi pencil and paper works well for me, start scribbling shapes, curves etc then colours most are pretty simple eg (wedding site = pinks purples) also a pantone book is well worth buying, or look at some of the sites listed in the Colour themes post

http://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=3066

Its also good to collect images that you like and colours that work well with each other, another thing i do is create monster layered photoshop files and drag bits round (hue and saturate) to change colours, usually it sparks something I like, my rule on it is not to have any restraints, just be free (and always keep what you have done as you can sometimes use it for new designs).

I have heard of people looking at other peoples sites or web template sites, but once you do its so hard to not copy them inadvertently, so I tend to steer clear of that if I can.

brainstorming is another good option, write words super fast eg

tree > wood > paper
tree > leaves > green > bark > texture > grain

be interested to see how others get their ideas

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post May 10 2005, 08:01 PM
I have a few different methods for overcoming a creative block.

When I'm at a loss for words, when I can't find one to fit after another, and my imagination seems empty, I'll sometimes grab a book from a favorite author, and start typing out a passage, or two, or three, and think about what the author was going through as he or she wrote it.

Why did this happen, and who might this character have been based upon, if he or she actually existed, what role does the place in the story play, and is the author trying to do more than just tell us a story.

I find a movie will often do the same, free my mind for a while, and make me think of other things. It helps me get a different perspective on a problem or a project by making me focus on something completely different for a while.
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post May 10 2005, 09:26 PM
I enjoy a combination of incubation, brainstorming and research.

If I feel stuck, I put myself in the shoes of a persona, and write as if I am agitated, delighted, bored, dissatisfied, curious, etc., about the topic.

If I need ideas for a site about gift baskets, I try to imagine what the giver or recipient would say. For instance, a real estate agent might want to supply gift baskets for buyers. What would really hack off or delight the realtor? What might get a delighted thankyou from the recipient? What would solve or cause a problem? What would be a nice surprise?

If I am not in the mood I go for a walk or bake bread. I'll do something unrelated - laundry, even. If I have to make progress on the project, I'll do work on an unrelated part - say drawing site structure ideas on paper when I am stuck on an article. The problems and solutions will be rolling around under the surface, incubating.

On a regular basis I give myself a few minutes at a time to write up little lists - my own values or curiosities at the moment, someone's USP, what someone admires or would be nice for their customers... Writing like this is a discipline. It's going to happen if I want to or not, just like dedication to being civil on crap days or changing the kitty litter. The inconvenience is less important than the discipline, and the discipline is an open door I make for myself and anyone who may benefit from whatever I'm involved in.

If I'm stumped, I probably don't have enough information. I enjoy keyword research, especially comparing keywords with the sites behind them - size, market target, useability, elegance and overall mood. I like pretending I am a customer with an emotional attachment to the topic but no attachment to the site.

I have a thing about psychology, and I'm analytical to a fault. I enjoy looking at statistical analysis, especially if related to motivation, learning modes, or self esteem. Originally I wanted a neural-behavioral psych doctorate. Transfering that stuff to learning about web work is a natural. Between one's ears and in the world, communication, values and attitude are everything.

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post May 11 2005, 01:52 AM
The change of environment could be enough for me to get new ideas. For instance a walk in the park could help to get new ideas and to get a clear my mind. In fact I do in mind what Black Phoenix was saying about the word associations too. Just looking at nature and how nature works often brings me new ideas. It might sound strange but it really helps...
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post May 11 2005, 04:03 AM
I ask my associate for ideas:

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Although sometimes like Tangaroa, we have to go for a walk in the park to really get the thoughts flowing.
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post May 11 2005, 04:06 AM
and now everybody goes like:" ooh how cute"! biggrin.gif
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post May 11 2005, 06:14 AM
I often find that sleeping on it helps.
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post May 11 2005, 07:18 AM
Thanks for the great tips Black_Phoenix.

"I have heard of people looking at other peoples sites ... its so hard to not copy them inadvertently" - Though I do look at other sites to figure out layouts, yes, sometimes it does push you more into a muddle when you find yourself copying more than the layout.

"write words super fast" - This is the first time I heard of this one. Sounds very interesting.

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I find a movie will often do the same, free my mind for a while ...

I do the same thing but with music. I find certain songs like 'A Simple Man' or 'Summer of 69' a nice diversion and a chance to think about something else. Have marked such songs in iTunes, and on occasion listen only to those.

Not much natural scenery around where I live, so walking only helps when there are lots of damsels around. :)
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post May 11 2005, 07:40 AM
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I have a thing about psychology, and I'm analytical to a fault.

Ah ... nice to find someone else who shares a passion for psychology. smile.gif

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If I am not in the mood ...

From the many psycho books, a simple solution for this age old problem of "Waiting for the 'right mood' to do something".

Excuse: I just don't feel like doing this ... I am not in the mood ... I just don't feel creative right now ... I am bored ...
Solution.

Seriously. While it sounds cliche, it isn't. Many mistakenly believe that you need to be in the 'mood' to do something. The reality is that only when you start doing something, you get in the 'mood'.

If you have difficulty in accepting this, than you probably believe that a person has to be motivated before he'll do something, i.e., motivation comes before action. Though logical, it isn't so. Motivation doesn't come first, action does. You need to act to feel motivated. Action is the fuel that feeds motivation.

Of course, a creative block is something totally different - you just don't know where to start ...
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post May 11 2005, 07:48 AM
I usually hit the bottle and rarely recover.

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post May 11 2005, 09:27 AM
Unambiguous sign that I've reached a creative block and am engaging in escapist behaviors: I find myself peering into the fridge, looking around, realizing I don't know what I'm looking for and don't remember getting up out of my office chair and padding into the kitchen.

Technique for writing: I'm frequently stuck on the headline or first paragraph, since those are the most important. So I tell myself: Start writing from the middle. Capture all the stuff I know I need to cover. Often this early writing just helps solidify my thinking on the subject, and the headline and the first paragraph come more naturally after that.

Technique for design: Surf, surf, surf. Then, get away from the monitor and use a white board to scribble. It often helps to go back and read the business brief -- that is, re-acquaint yourself with the business and usability needs, the "non-design" aspects of the project. Sometimes I think it's easy to "block" when you lose track of the goal and just obsess about shapes and colors.

Best universal technique: Goof off until the very last moment. Then bring it all together in a flash of late-night effort. For me personally, desperation and inspiration are intimately linked. wink-2.gif
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post May 11 2005, 09:46 AM
Hi one thing that does show through, through everyones replies and I did nt mention it earlier is try to relax and get away from the mental barrier.

Some read, some walk dogs, and some scribble but everyone is getting away from the design problem. I have found in the past you just get more uptight and frustrated trying to design, and this just makes it worse, just have a break watch a film, examine the contents of the fridge, walk the dog (borrow one if you dont have one) biggrin.gif

just relax, and the ideas will flow

thanks to everyone for their input

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post May 11 2005, 09:57 AM
I agree with Black Phoenix in that looking at other sites can make it hard not to copy.

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Folex, thats my DREAM way of doing creative design... tongue.gif

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Goof off until the very last moment.


Frank , I gotta admit I have had quite a few moments like those!! :oops:
Then I bought a book on time management and things got a bit better.

The best way I found was to pay others to do the design if I am having a bad time of it. Local graphics students need the work and with the potential of more work they always do the BEST work!

It gets them some commercial experience for their portfolio and a bit of dosh... just pays to get the right minded student (who is not always on the p*ss and thinks you owe them a well paid living)

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post May 11 2005, 03:22 PM
Well, there's
not in the mood ---> avoidance
vs
not in the mood ---> productive incubation

In my experience, struggling with all-or-nothing avoidance fortifies the belief that I have to be in the mood to make progress.

I can be not in the mood and still make progress.
1. Let go a little, not a lot (no all or nothing projections, please)
2. Believe that just doing something, regularly and in little chunks, helps break down the avoid versus produce boundaries.
3. Progress is not magical. You just do it. In the process...
4. The magic of inspiration only happens when there is a cross pollination of ideas. Ya gotta get out there and exercise an open and go philosophy.

I like Dorthea Brande's little book "Becoming a Writer."
She has several simple exercises that reset your mind from all or nothing to "I wonder what will happen next?"

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post May 13 2005, 01:34 PM
I also play word association games to try and get through. They often help with the writing and overal theme or metaphor for the site.

One thing that helps me often is hitting stock photography sites (and in the old days catalogues, anyone remember having stacks of about 50 catalogues from Masterfile, Tony Stone, ect stacked in your office?). Look at photos (you may even have original photos from the client) and they can sometimes generate all kinds of ideas.

If the company exists in real life, a tour or visit can be quite helpful. If you are just building a web site for them and they already have collateral material it can be a guiding way, simply because you should stick with the branding they've already done.

Talking to staff and customers can be helpful as well.

There is the famous story of the Capo d'astro bar, my prof in college gave us a copy of it, very inspiring...


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Back in the sixties, I was hired by an ad agency to write copy on the Aeolian Piano Company account. My first assignment was an ad to be placed in The New York Times for one of their grand pianos.

The only background information I received was some previous ads a few faded close-up shots . . . and of course, the due date.

The Account Executive was slightly put out by my request for additional information and his response to my suggestion that I sit down with the client was, \"Are you one of those? Can't you just create something? We're up against a closing date!\"

I acknowledged his perception that I was one of those, which got us an immediate audience with the head of the agency.

I volunteered that I couldn't even play a piano let alone write about why anyone should spend $5,000 for this piano, especially when they could purchase a Baldwin or Steinway for the same amount.

Both allowed the fact they would gladly resign the Aeolian business for either of the others, however, while waiting for that call, suppose the deadline was attended to.

I persisted and, reluctantly, a tour of the Aeolian factory in upstate New York was arranged. I was assured that \"we don't do this with all of clients\" and my knowledge as to the value of company time was greatly reinforced.

The tour of the plant lasted two days and although the care and construction appeared meticulous, $5,000 still seemed to be a lot of money.

Just before leaving, I was escorted into the showroom by the National Sales Manager. In an elegant setting sat their piano alongside the comparably priced Steinway and Baldwin.

\"They sure do look alike,\" I commented.

\"They sure do. About the only real difference is the shipping weight-ours is heavier.\"

\"Heavier?\" I asked. \"What makes yours heavier?\"

\"The Capo d'astro bar.\"

\"What's a Capo d'astro bar?\"

\"Here, I'll show you. Get down on your knees.\"

Once under the piano he pointed to a metallic bar fixed across the harp and bearing down on the highest octaves. \"It takes 50 years before the harp in the piano warps. That's when the Capo d'astro bar goes to work. It prevents that warping.\"

I left the National Sales Manager under his piano and dove under the Baldwin to find a Tinkertoy Cap d'astro bar at best. Same with Steinway.

\"You mean the Capo d'astro bar really doesn't go to work for 50 years?\" I asked.

\"Well, there's got to be some reason why the Met uses it,\" he casually added.

I froze. \"Are you telling me that the Metropolitan Opera House in New York City uses this piano?\"

\"Sure. And their Capo d'astro bar should be working by now.\"

Upstate New York looks nothing like the front of the Metropolitan Opera House where I met the legendary Carmen Rise Stevens. She was now in charge of moving the Metropolitan Opera House to the Lincoln Center.

Ms. Stevens told me, \"About the only thing the Met is taking with them is their piano.\"

That quote was the headline of our first ad.

The result created a six year wait between order and delivery.

My point is this. No matter what the product or service, I promise you, the Capo d'astro bar is there.
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post May 13 2005, 04:02 PM
Oh, now you've done it. Memory lane.

All I ever learned about writing advertising I learned from a guy who owned one of the largest mail-order retailers of fishing equipment. My first job out of college. I was told to write the full-page catalog copy for a particular brand of fishing lure. Trouble is, I had never been fishing in my life (and never have!). All I was given: the phone number of the president of the small company that made it. I phoned him up, and like a proud father he told me about the 17 steps required to make the lure: shaping the balsa wood, sanding, varnishing, polishing, fitting the hook, etc. I wrote it all up in concise and sparkling detail.

My boss (a guy no more than 5 years older than me actually, a mail-order wunderkind) came to my office and just tossed the copy back on my desk. "I'm so disappointed in you Frank," he said. I don't remember how I recovered, but I probably asked if I'd gotten the 17 steps wrong. He told me something I'll never forget: "I don't care if they spit on it 17 times for good luck. That isn't why people buy it. People buy it because they just want to catch big fish."

That's all you need to remember about writing advertising: "People just want to catch big fish." Tap into the audience's personal, visceral motives. Whenever I'm stuck for advertising, I try to put myself in the place of the buyer, feel what they feel, and try to explain how we'll help them fulfill their ambition, alleviate their fear, or satiate their needs. How they can catch big fish.

Works every time.
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post May 15 2005, 12:44 PM
A walk nails the problem. Always.
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post May 15 2005, 05:13 PM
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A walk nails the problem. Always.
You remind me of a story. Someone I know was buying shoes. Another customer came in and said "I am a glass blower. I need boots that have thick, slow-to-melt soles, because I need time to move if I step on a hot spill. The top of the boot should protect me from dropped glass, sometimes molten, sometimes just heavy and sharp." The salesperson knew just what to suggest. After discussion there was a sale, and the glass blower went home happy.

Both customer and salesperson had to know the problem and the possibilities. The customer needed to pick the right store. The salesperson probably had to think creatively. Perhaps knowledge and creativity are like having the right work boots for walking on nails, molten glass, or whatever else is needed.



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post May 16 2005, 05:28 PM
Reduce Clutter

No, I do not practise Feng Shui. This is a recent thing I've been trying and just realized lately.

Designers are often trained to think that everything has a right place, that every design element should contribute to the overall design, and it can only do that if it has particular characteristics; "it has to be this shape, it has to be angled in a particular direction, it has to be in the center" etc. I am sure most of these also apply in other creative fields too, like writing for example, where every situation and character should contribute to the overall plot and can only do so if they have particular characteristics.

And hence most of us train ourselves to think this way, consciously or unconsciously. This makes us very susceptible to clutter.

Clutter or disorganization sends a constant signal to the creative mind that something is wrong. Things aren't the way they are supposed to be. "The books aren't supposed to be strewn around, the plates need to be cleaned, the stain needs to be removed" etc are clutters that are 'visual' and hence powerful. These constantly weigh on our mind. Some, like Elizabeth here, unconsciously realize this, and that's why she does the laundry before going back to work. Others don't even realize this and hence they feel the need to relax because they can't understand what's bothering them. And while relaxing does help to make our thoughts clearer, if the clutter isn't dealt with it will continue to bog down our minds.

Small things can weigh heavily on our mind over time. And such distractions prevents our creativity. So sometimes just cleaning up the small clutters around us can make us more creative.
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