What would you pay for a link from a PR7 or a PR8? Options

Now... before you say... I know this isn't an easy question to answer.

It depends on the industry, the relevancy of the linking site, the number of other links on the linking page, the words used to link, etc. and so on...

But I just wondered if anyone had some very broad ballpark figures of what rates can be expected...

Finally, any tips on how I could seek out PR7's and above for a given industry?

Thanks

Aaron

I don't think there are any guidelines-

The value of advertising, especially on the Internet, is typically whatever the market will bear.

I'd pay more for a link on a site that would bring me qualified traffic and sales that had a PR4 than I'd pay for a link on a PR7 that was unrelated...

You need to take into account how many other links are on that page as well since the "voting power" of the page is equally divided amoung all links on that page.

Finally, any tips on how I could seek out PR7's and above for a given industry?

Try browsing the Google Directory where sites are listed in their category by PR.

PR7 pages are not that rare as to have really high values. PR8 though is far rarer and if you can buy a link within your budget then do it.

What it is worth is to unique to come up with a ballpark figure or concensus. Two companies in the same industry could value the same link on the same page very differently depending upon their strategies, the nature of the page, etc, etc.

How well you can exploit the value of the link is a major factor in how much it is worth. Exclusivity is another key value point, where the link is worth far more if it will be the only outbound link than if it is one of twenty.

Too many factors, even for ballbark figures, since we haven't even decided what ballgame the ballpark is supposed to suit.

Hi,

This thread gave me an idea. I searched through Google to find sites with PR7 in my topic. I have just written one to see what it would cost. I bet I can get it for a song and a dance (possibly a donation of products). Their sponsor page has only one external link on it and that page also is PR7.

For me I must kill 2 birds with one stone. It is worthless to me if the PR7 page is not in my topic. It must drive qualified traffic as well as PR.

I doubt I will ever get above a PR6 again. Several months ago I dropped to PR5. I have added many PR5+ backlinks to my site, including a couple PR6 and 7. To no avail. But the ultimate is where you end up in the SERPs. Though I am sure PR doesn't hurt, if doesn't seem necessary for good positioning.

I will report back.

The ranking boost is significant from off-topic PR links. The price you pay depends on how badly you need that boost.

Ballpark figures: I believe someone named Bob has come up with a few.

Yep.

There's a big thread or two or three around here on the subject, too.

Maybe the question being asked should be, "What would you pay for a link from a popular site that caters to your targeted audience and compliments your business?" Because, that's really what you want. Sometimes the price of that link is a link pointing back, and it's a win-win situation.

Thanks, folks... I kind of suspected I was asking the impossible. I guess it's worth 'what you're prepared to pay' is the only real answer! Thanks for the tip on find high PR sites through the Google directory - I should have thought of that. Only problem is I quickly exhausted those listings and it doesn't cover all the high PR pages within the industry by a long way... any other tips on how I could identify those, beyond just putting some general searches into Google and seeing if the first listings have high PRs...?

Thanks again, everyone...

Aaron

I bought a PR 7 link for $20/month. Then you have a site like rateitall.com charging $1000 a link per month for a PR 7 homepage

If i have a PR 6 and hundreds of PR 5 subpages, what would it be worth to someone if i displayed thier link on 20,000 pages?

If i have a PR 6 and hundreds of PR 5 subpages, what would it be worth to someone if i displayed thier link on 20,000 pages?

Just a little bit less than they expect to make in extra sales from having those links.

That's not quite as 'Smart Alec' as it sounds, because once you bear that in mind, you can start looking to who would get the most benefit from that kind of deal, and maybe send them a proposal.

Blackknight i aquired some PR 8 links, and hopefully that will boost my pagerank to PR 7 or 8... Then i will have some clout.. IF you contact me now i can give you a special rate. :wink:

Hmm, check your Private Messages regularly, I may take you up on that one as I have a client in mind who could be a great match - if I can convince the men who hold the purse-strings that something as insubstantial as 'link popularity' is worth investing in.

I'll be checking my mail

I was thinking my unique selling point will be i shall allow clients to pick up to 10 different link descriptions which will be displayed on the site.

I am interested in this topic from two perspectives.

1. we recently had someone (two companies, in fact) approach us wanting to do extensive text link advertising across a number of our sites. One is paying us just over £3k per month for many thousands of text links across a number of sites. The other is being a little more selective.

2. with this new found income, I am now looking to spend a small % of it on a similar, more carefully targeted campaign. This is with a view to a) increasing our traffic, and (perhaps more importantly) to attracting more of the same kind of advertiser. I have done quite a bit of shopping around and rates vary enormously... I suspect because, in some cases, some webmasters just haven't had such an approach before and there's seemingly no standard rate. I figure that if I can find some good deals out there (and I agree rateitall.com doesn't appear to be one of them), then I can build something very successful just on effectively buying and selling advertising wisely...

Aaron

A "friend" notified me of this thread and now that it's been a year or so since I last posted here, I thought this might be a good time to see if anything has changed in the way this topic, ( and me personally), is viewed since then.

There are a lot of people here whom I respect, in spite of some choice words at my expense. A year or so ago, I was seen by some as stupid, wasting the tax payers money, and even the world's biggest spammer and bigger still, the internet anit-christ. All of those terms I thought were a bit over-stated and the reality of my sphere of influence being way too small to ever deserve any of those titles other than perhaps the first two.

It would seem to me that at least some of the things I was saying back then, (if some of you recall, I was quite the prolific poster and enjoyed being involved with professional, intelligent discussions on emarketing), have stood the test of time, not to mention the wrath of Google. Mainly, that links ARE a currency and that anything of value is going to be capitalized on. Also, that any business has a right to offer a service and charge a fee regardless of who or what created a demand and a desire for that service.

I always thought people who identified a market and created a service to satisfy a demand, (not unlike the SEO industry), were seen as entrepreneurs and savvy business people. Yet, when I did that, many of the very people who had encouraged me in the beggining, seemed to consider me a parasite, to meniton one of the nicer names I was called. Still kind of curious as to what I did wrong in that respect.

From day one, I NEVER sold page rank. I have said over and over that I have no control over page rank whatsoever. All I do is offer a brokering service to find text links on sites that have a specific PR. I identified a market, structured procedures to capitalize on that market and charged a fee for my services.

I don't want to start another argument over this. I don't want to be called silly names. I don't want to dis-respect any of you and I don't want any of you dis-respecting me. I do miss being able to share my own unique insight into topics from time to time, but I have adjusted to life without spending half of it in forums and if this is still too hot of a topic to be able to allow my participation without lowering the tone of the forum, I can accept that and not darken the door.

I will say that I am very likely a person who could answer many, if not all, of the questions that I see continually coming up in threads like this all over the web. I have a background with this topic that I would venture to say is unlike any other. That may or may not have any value to this discussion or this forum. Either way, life will go on and it's just not worth getting worked up over.

I'm just curious after reading this thread if the general consensus is still that I am a spammer and a bad guy because I came right out and said what I was doing, or if the world is ready to accept that what is being discussed here is not that much different from what the Pr Ad Network has done for over a year?

I don't know anything of the history of your involvement in these forums and the problems you elude to, so can't comment there. What I will say, though, is that I'm puzzled that a search for link:www.pradnetwork.com on Google produces no inbound links, if this is an area in which you specialise... I realise that you may concentrate on acquiring links for clients, but surely you'd do this for your own site also... no?

Aaron

Welcome Bob Nice to see you here and you are most welcome.

Mainly, that links ARE a currency and that anything of value is going to be capitalized on

Spot on.

Glad to see you back as well Bob - looking forward to your insights.

altyfc, as you are not aware of the past history on this, I will give you a very quick history lesson.

Bob was the first to create a business of brokering links between web sites. Google did not like this very much so google penalized ALL his websites and ALL the websites he hosted. The penalization of the sites he hosted eventually went away, but google is a vengeful SE so the penalty remains on his sites. Oh ya, I also think google may still hold a grudge over that law suite. :twisted:

Welcome back to the forums Bob. I've been wondering how you are and if the dust has settled somewhat.

I appreciate your not wanting to rehash events of last year, but I do feel you have every right to recap in general terms what happened, if only to help fill in the blanks from your post. No need to get into the who was right or wrong part. Been there, done that :wink:

In any case, with Yahoo! switching to Ink and other engines charging forth with new ideas, how valuable is Google PR going to be in the long run?

I'd rather pay for an ad or post an article on a well visited site in my target market that jives with my own content or mission in some way. PageRank is a score that to this day leaves a small impression on me. A usable site with something unique to offer is what trips my trigger.

The topic of PageRank and its link "value" is interesting and on the minds of lots of folks. Is it worth paying for or can it be bought? At this point in the search engine game, is it worth it to bother or is something else new on the horizon?

Kim

I'm just curious after reading this thread if the general consensus is still that I am a spammer and a bad guy because I came right out and said what I was doing.

I think the general consensus is that coming right out and saying what you were doing was a mistake. Anyone who thinks that links aren't being sold for PR must not be paying $299/yr to Yahoo.