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After SEMPO: Should we Start a Trade Association?


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#1 peter_d

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:16 PM

Does there need to be a competing org? Once that org gets higher membership numbers (hardly difficult) they become the main player.

How much support is there out there for Bill's notion of a representitive SEM organisation?

It would get my money...



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#2 JohnScott

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:22 PM

If Peter D was at the helm, you'd have a lot of support from my corner of the net.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:36 PM

>It would get my money...

Where do I send and how much?

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:39 PM

How much support is there out there for Bill's notion of a representitive SEM organisation?

If it was set up the way Bill has been describing in this thread I'd be in. Heck I'd volunteer to help with the website too.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:47 PM

I'd be very happy to help promote, handle communications and act as advisor - no payment necessary (although John's vote of confidence is much appreciated)

I like what Bill says. I think that is the way forward.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:52 PM

I like what Bill says. I think that is the way forward.

Agreed. It certainly would be a fair amount of work (which no doubt is the case for SEMPO) but I'd be confident with Bill at the helm.

#7 JohnScott

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:55 PM

Bill's definately a a great choice as well, I'm just guessing that Peter D has a bit more visibility in the SEO community.

Either way, you've got my support.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:56 PM

Peter who?? :?

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:58 PM

<laughs> My feeling is that the head should be independent i.e. not a professional SEM.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 05:59 PM

It sounds like it's worth exploring, doesn't it.

I'm not sure what part of the industy 250 people are, but I understand that's about how many members SEMPO has.

I've seen a lot of claims that they are the industry leaders. I said before that leaders lead. But, leaders also listen. SEMPO doesn't appear to really be doing either.

I suspect that it it might not take much effort to build an organization that made made SEMPO look small in comparison.

What are the things that you would look for in an organization that actually represented the industry?

What would its purpose be?

How would people communicate with each other? Is it something that could be done, not in a conference room during SES seminars, but on the web?

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 06:56 PM

Is it something that could be done, not in a conference room during SES seminars, but on the web?

It would have to be. There are far too many of us in far flung places that can't necessarily get to an SES.

Obviously communication could be via a website and email but what about a forum as well. They've worked pretty well so far. :D

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 06:59 PM

>>It would get my money...

>Where do I send and how much?

Hell, if NFFC is bankrolling it, I'm in. ....just, ummm, don't elect Ammon as treasurer.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 06:59 PM

What are the things that you would look for in an organization that actually represented the industry?

What would its purpose be?

I think you hit the nail on the head right here: http://www.cre8asite...r=asc&start=105, and this comment is a big part of it:

How would people communicate with each other? Is it something that could be done, not in a conference room during SES seminars, but on the web?

Start simple: A blog, a mailing list and a website that was transparent, and answered a prospective members queries right off the bat, and injcluded things like bylaws, fact on where it was incorporated, what its mission was etc etc.

Later, if a place like this was willing, a specific forum to discuss what is going on, and perhaps more high tech solutions (like streaming webcams).

My $0.02 anyway!!!

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 07:06 PM

Okay where do I send my check or paypal payment? Do Mac users get a discount? :D

How would people communicate with each other? Is it something that could be done, not in a conference room during SES seminars, but on the web?


First a monthly member newsletter. Would not have to have articles, just meeting minutes, finance tallies, what is being done. That alone would run rings around SEMPO.

Second a website with real info on it of use to the membership. Maybe a forum maybe an email discussion list. But an email discussion list or even an instant messenger chat would work for a small group like the directors and staff.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 07:15 PM

What are the things that you would look for in an organization that actually represented the industry?...What would its purpose be?


Bills post also has my vote:
http://www.cre8asite...r=asc&start=105

How would people communicate with each other? Is it something that could be done, not in a conference room during SES seminars, but on the web?


Child's play. To start...

A blog
A discussion forum
A newsletter

With an eye to....

Chat
Video Conferencing

As required by the membership. Activities must be transparent and inclusive.
Could have it running in a matter of days....

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 07:28 PM

Interesting.

Some of the professional engineers organization websites I've been looking at (have an engineering firm as a client) have both information for engineers/companies and the general public.

You know, there are many threads discussing SEMPO; in addition to the communications and the representing-everyone issues, it may be that many issues would be the same.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 07:29 PM

Some of the professional engineers organization websites I've been looking at (have an engineering firm as a client) have both information for engineers/companies and the general public.

That makes a lot of sense Diane. :D

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 07:34 PM

I think the members could build a Wikipedia-style resource over time. Everyone can contribute. Should help benefit the general public, and ultimately SEMs.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 07:35 PM

I'd be happy to be part of it.

#20 peter_d

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 07:35 PM

We should invite the other forums in here? We don't want anyone to think this is purely a cre8asite thing...




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