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#1 altyfc

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 06:13 AM

The Google dance seems to be incredibly late this time around... anyone know why this is, and when we can expect it to finally happen? I'm guessing it must be highly imminent now...

#2 bragadocchio

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 06:23 AM

I've been noticing some minor fluctuations and different number counts from the www,www2, and www3 Google sites over the last few days.

That's probably not due to the everflux. But, who knows. Google sometimes delays their update depending upon a lot of things. If they are trying out some changes to their system, that could slow down the timing of the dance. But, the timetable they follow is their own, and if they want to delay an update for any reason, they will.

Hopefully it will be good to all of us. I rarely see any changes because of Google's updates. And, for me, that's a good thing.

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 06:53 AM

I had a feeling last month that it was the start of the end of the traditional "end of the month updates". Whereas before, we'd see updates start during the last 10 days of the month, they are now looking to be during the first 10 days of the following month.

They were calculating pagerank yesterday (at least for two of my sites) which is usually a good sign that the update is less than 36 hours away. Then again, that's not always the case, either.

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#4 altyfc

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 07:34 AM

They were calculating pagerank yesterday (at least for two of my sites)...


How can you tell this?

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 08:00 AM

During the 36-48 hours prior to the dance, you'll notice that linkto's come and go on various sites. For smaller sites, it's tough to catch this happening, but on large sites, it can take hours and it's easy to spot. The PR gets calculated at this time (at least that's what I've been able to determine is happening) but it won't show until the dance is over.

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#6 phish

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 12:11 PM

During the 36-48 hours prior to the dance, you'll notice that linkto's come and go on various sites. For smaller sites, it's tough to catch this happening, but on large sites, it can take hours and it's easy to spot. The PR gets calculated at this time (at least that's what I've been able to determine is happening) but it won't show until the dance is over. 

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I started noticing today that the PR on some sites is has been going from the 3 or 4, whatever the sites rank is, to a full grey bar. If I check back later or sometimes simply hit the refresh button the Pagerank changes. Do you think this is the result of what you mentioned here?

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 12:25 PM

yup. Grey bar happens for other reasons, too, but it does happen a lot more frequently during this period leading up to the update.

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#8 Thanol

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 07:19 PM

Do pages usually dissapear from the index during the dance?

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 07:30 PM

Yup. They appear, disappear, appear, disappear. Actually, that starts before the actual update usually. It's quite common.

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 11:23 PM

our site has been bouncing between position 7 and 11 the last few days. We had been sitting at 11 for the entire month, I'm hoping this is a sign that we'll jump into the top 10 with the next dance.

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 05:27 PM

It is coming, it is coming, the dance is coming!!!


At least I hope so...

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 05:49 PM

The dance went from March 7th through March, 12th last month, which was late too.

The people at the efactory Google Dance site are speculating that this dance might not take place until the second half of April...

#13 bharwani

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 08:14 PM

I am getting minor indications like PR changes on my pages etc.. The dance may have already started at last..

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 09:32 PM

my site has been fluxing between #7 and #11 the last 3 or 4 days. I have seen it do that before.

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 10:24 PM

No dance yet. It's coming. Really.


One thing I've learned (and I've learned a lot, but it takes a lot to make me change my mind about things) is that if you have to worry about the dance, then you aren't ready for what it might bring you.


Google will dance. It'll also have Everflux. If you have a good site, then each month (when it does dance) you will see a little bit better traffic from them. Eventually, that traffic growth will level off. Period.

Then you can go to work and try to increase your level again. And then you can have another anurism. (Did I spell that right?).

The sales on my movie site increased 12% on the month I ignored Google and worried about converting the traffic it was already sending me.

The next month, I did the same thing and the sales increased 42% (I got better at converting traffic, not getting it).

When the day ends, you have to ask yourself - am I ready for the traffic that does come when google does its dance?

Don't wait for the dance. Keep working on your site. Make it good. Make it rock and roll. Make it the best site. Then, when the dance does come, you're ready - and the next month, you'll have a better site to show for it.

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 12:08 AM

Grumpus, it's aneurysm.
:P

Why is this :mad: 'Mad' in the list of emoticons?

#17 bragadocchio

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 12:37 AM

Why is this :mad:  'Mad' in the list of emoticons?


I like that one. It comes in useful sometimes, especially when you just don't have the proper words to express yourself.

But, I'd rather use this one:

:glasses:

and, there are a bunch of others available from sites mentioned in this thread:

Smileys and humourous images, etc.
http://www.cre8asite...?showtopic=1403

Like this:

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(If we're going to have a dance, we need a band)

#18 polarlight

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 01:07 AM

The dance has started - check out http://www-ex.google.com and look at the backlinks for Yahoo! - you can do some searches on
your site(s) and get a preview of the end of the dance...

[size=9][Moderator Note: Edited to fix link - BK]

#19 polarlight

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 01:09 AM

hmmm...looks like I need to learn how to create a URL in one of these
messages... :oops:

#20 bragadocchio

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 01:40 AM

Hi polarlight,

Welcome to the forums :wave:

No big deal with the url... You were pretty close with the BBCode. For a URL it's like this:

[url=http://www-ex.google.com]http://www-ex.google.com[/url]

I catch myself using html instead of BBCode all of the time.

That's a very useful link. Thanks!

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 03:40 AM

http://www-ex.google.com

I often use that to see when the dance is going to start... this usually changes before www2 and is often a good sign the dance is afoot.... my site has had a few deep crawl hits today, so I expect the www2 and www3 update to happen within the next 72 hours.....

Of course Google likes to suprise us, and so it will probabally update after this just to prove me wrong... :P

#22 polarlight

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 05:25 AM

Hi bragadocchio,

Thank you for the welcome - and the help on how to create a hyperlink
when posting a reply (obviously, I'm a newbie!) - I see what I did wrong
now. Maybe I should turn BBCode off and HTML on - or at least use
the preview button until I get the hang of it! :P

I'd just like to say that I've been 'lurking' around here for awhile now
and decided to finally jump in - your forum is quite informative.

The URL was nothing special - it was straight from the Google-Dance
site ( okay - let's try this again: http://www.google-dance.com ) -
I've defaulted my settings to look at the 8 datacenters and saw that
something was cooking.

A little history - I'm mostly a c++ programmer, but I have a side interest
in search engines - I've built a few sites (mostly mom-and-pop online
stores for a few mom and pops I know!) and got interested in search
engines when someone asked me how to get traffic to their site a few
years ago. That started me down a whole new path...it's been fun
learning about seo work - very fascinating!

Thanks again for the welcome - I hope to be able to contribute down
the road...



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