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#1 Mehdi

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 02:29 PM

I added a drop down menu script (//HV Menu- http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/hvmenu/) to my website http://soccer-europe.com several months ago and traffic has dropped considerably. I have updated some of my META TAGS but only my index page is listed on search engines (out of over 1000 pages). Is the script blocking or preventing the search engines from spidering the site correctly or do I need to add META Tags to all my pages?

A search for 'soccer transfers' gives me a first page ranking on most search engines (10th on page one on google, 3rd on page one on Altavista) but searches for actual text from my site come back with nothing.

#2 Tim

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 03:36 PM

Hi Mehdi, and welcome to Cre8asite :wave:

Is the script blocking or preventing the search engines from spidering the site correctly

Yes, it is. Search engines don't index JavaScript. Have a look here - that's how search engines will see your pages. You only have a few links they can take.

Possible Solutions:
- One solution is to get rid of the menu bar and go back to what you had before
- Use a different menu bar script - one that is search engine friendly. Because search engines can't read JavaScript, these scripts work by creating the menu in plain HTML, and then using CSS and JavaScript to style it for browsers
- Add text links at the bottom of your pages
- Add <noscript> tags next to your menubar, and include links to your pages (don't overdo it though - you wouldn't want to get penalised for spamming)
- Modify your current script so that it displays the top of the menu as HTML links, and then uses JavaScript for the dropdown links. Make sure you have links to the deeper pages on all your first level pages.

Hope that helps - let us know how you go!

- Tim

#3 Mehdi

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 05:12 PM

Thanks for the welcome.

Any idea where I can find a single column layout template similar to this? (the column on the left)

http://www.footballresults.org

#4 bragadocchio

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 10:37 PM

There are a nice set of different templates that use CSS instead of javascript here:

http://css.maxdesign....au/listamatic/

A simple verticle list with buttons is here:

http://css.maxdesign.../vertical13.htm

Look through some of the others there. Some of them may be pretty close to what you want.

The benefit of using CSS like that is that a spider doesn't have problems indexing the pages you link to like it might with a javascript dropdown.

#5 Mehdi

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 11:32 AM

Thanks. I've used forms instead here :

http://soccer-europe.com/EPL/Menu.html

Will the search engine pick up the links listed in the forms?

#6 Black_Knight

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 12:38 PM

The latest evolution of Googlebot (but only the latest) seems to be able to index forms, and is the first spider in use by a major search engine to do so. However, the older Googlebot, which is also still in use, cannot follow forms, nor can Yahoo, MSN, etc.

HTML links are needed. That's an absolute. Do what you like, but if your links are not links (that means anchor tags with HREF attributes), they will probably not be crawled by any spiders.

#7 Mehdi

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 07:26 PM

Thanks for the responses. I have been playing about with CSS style sheets but what I really need is vertical cascading menu or a tree menu.

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 01:47 AM

Can you give us an example of what you're after as a vertical cascaded menu?

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 04:51 AM

I think you might find this usefull.
http://www.cssdrive...._drop_down_menu

Its a drop down menu using entirely CSS , except of a small part because IE doesnt support some thing yet.

I believe this must be ok with the search engines but i not 100% sure.
Maybe the experts here can let us know   :D

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 05:02 AM

It'll be fine for the search engines as all they'll see are the links as shown in the example on the page:


<ul id="cssdropdown">



<li class="mainitems">

<a href="http://www.cssdrive.com">CSS Gallery</a>

<ul class="subuls">

<li><a href="">Gordon Mac</a></li>

<li><a href="">Juiced Thoughts</a></li>

<li><a href="">The Daily Flight</a></li>

<li><a href="">GrapeFruit</a></li>

</ul>

</li>



<li class="mainitems">

<a href="http://www.cssdrive.com/index.php/examples/">CSS Examples</a>

<ul class="subuls" style="width: 15em">

<li><a href="">CSS2 Generated Content</a></li>

<li><a href="">Custom scrollbar colors</a></li>

<li><a href="">Markerless and "no indent" Lists</a></li>

</ul>

</li>



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#11 Mehdi

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 01:51 PM

This is exactly what I'm looking for :

http://evolt.org/evo...4234/micone.htm

The problem is the sub menus are not displayed in Opera. e.g. in IE6 if you highlight :

Support >

the sub menu :

Support Home
Knowledge Base

is displayed. In Opera they are not.

A breakdown of the code is here :

http://www.evolt.org...4234/index.html

If anyone can figure out how to make the script fully compatible with Opera (and other browsers) I would be very grateful as I paid someone earlier in the week to make me a script but it didn't work out so I'm back to square one.

#12 ChrisChoi

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Posted 21 December 2004 - 10:53 AM

You might want to refer to the script as a .js file rather than put the
entire code into your site, so the SEs could read it.



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