Google Starting It's Own Version Of Stumbleupon
Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:18 PM
It's all spawned because Ebay's just bought StumbleUpon
So, what are you thoughts?
Is Google feeling the sting of rejection here?
Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:26 PM
The price of $45-75 million is relatively very low isn't it ?
I don't know if this would be good for the future quality of StumbleUpon though.. Ebay is losing trust and relevance day by day. Maybe because the corporate management has not been able to prevent the tons of fraud.
Google has so many resources allocated to certain fields, that when they try to compete in other fields they struggle. Examples include Google Answers and Urchin. A little "dice" button on the Google toolbar isn't really competition, maybe consolation.
Edited by kulpreet_singh, 18 April 2007 - 09:39 PM.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:23 PM
However, they may be better suited to supporting stumbling on websites for fun than they are to supporting professional business transactions. Thanks for posting this news!
Posted 19 April 2007 - 01:10 AM
Either Google did not present themselves well enough or there was some type of management conflict between the individuals on either side of the deal. It could not have been about money, brand recognition, brand power, technological advancement, etc. because Google clearly beats Ebay in all of those fields.
Posted 19 April 2007 - 03:05 AM
Posted 19 April 2007 - 04:52 AM
Perhaps something like sites that other people who have also visited sites that you've visited have ended up going to.
You can try it out without using the Googlebar (but you probably have to be logged into your Google account) by clicking on:
For me, it picks out some sites that match what I have been searching for, I even found a few that I would like to have found the first time I searched. It also showed me that I logged in on my wife's laptop and forgot to log out .
Posted 19 April 2007 - 07:28 AM
Apparently it is true that Stumble Upon rebuffed the big G!
Posted 19 April 2007 - 07:36 AM
Posted 19 April 2007 - 08:01 AM
They could for instance use the pages that you visit, along with the duration of your visit (time until next page is opened) as a way of determining how far you liked that page. Who knows if they do it, but they certainly could. They could also just use that information to test algorithms.
Posted 19 April 2007 - 09:04 AM
Posted 19 April 2007 - 10:17 AM
1. The community - very vibrant.
2. The toolbar - eBay ain't got one. Couple it to Skype, the new eBay ads, and paypal, magical sparks might start to happen. This will be eBay's foot in the browser window.
3. SU Videos - new addition, but a nice weapon to have. Suppose eBay signs distro deals with, ooh, say MS or Yahoo (remember the new anti-YouTube consortium announced a few weeks ago), then it could have the traffic AND the content - revenue central.
Posted 19 April 2007 - 10:31 AM
Let's see, eBay has Skype + PayPal; PayPal just started some new things with Yahoo - is the next step eBay + Yahoo?
Posted 19 April 2007 - 10:35 AM
As things stand, eBay is positioning itself as shopping and communication. Yahoo is everything social. Google is 'we got search, but we're really an advertising agency'. MS is kinda lost, but I wouldn't ignore them. MS always looks lost when the enter a new market (browsers, XBox...).
Posted 19 April 2007 - 02:34 PM
eBay + Skype.
Google + YouTube
Google + DoubleClick
(eBay?) + StumbleUpon
Think about it this way: lots of cash, lots of companies doing the same thing, strong competitive pressures to acquire access to eyeballs and advertisers. Could get very ugly.
I got the beer. Someone bring some popcorn
Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:25 AM
I don't think a stumble type concept is the way to go though.
What they could do is:
Take the data from Google Reader
Stick it on a Digg type-vote for me kinda of system.
Feed the results into the search algo.
The amount of influence on the SERPS should be tiny, something like 0.05%, but enough to get the online marketing crowd to salivate over.
It would be useful to see which feeds in my list get read the most, are the most popular.
Of course Google could connect the Feed data with the stumble system. Makes sense for everything to infulence everything.
Whatever happens it looks like it's going to be an interesting 2007
Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:19 AM
Google let's you activate web-tracking in your Googlebar, it'll track the users through the PR queries, tied to your Google account. (actually, I'm not sure on that: do you activate it separately or is it activated on default when you're logged in?)
I don't use a Googlebar so I can't say much about how it works, lol. I don't like installing yet another toolbar when all I want is the PR display (which is easier to see with the Firefox plugin, in my opinion).
Posted 20 April 2007 - 06:06 AM
I actually use the Yahoo toolbar, as it's is much more useful - i can go to flickr, email, nascar. footbal and even the personals (yeah *lol* I have a yahoo personals account) all in a click.
I think though, without the social media piece, Google's just like their "I feel lucky" link on a search. I don't see honestly, how it could really compare Stumble Upon, but I guess in time we'll see how it shakes out.
Posted 20 April 2007 - 08:22 AM
The software alone doesn't seem to be all that magical (unless I'm mistaken ... or it's patented).
It's patented (or pending patent).
But so is Google's.
Systems and methods for combining sets of favorites
The filing date is March 31, 2005, so I don't know if its deployment might be fairly said to be a reaction to a rumored sale of Stumbleupon.
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