Another first class reply in Cre8asite. Thanks.
you'd think it was a science. That something like this could be clearly defined through trail and error.
So if the sandbox was to exist there are two things that have been suggested to get out: (not including all the other Google tactics)
- Google Ads (Cheeky Google)
- Move onto an older domain
The other point made, which seems logical, is that when you launch a new site Google will index within the first week and you will do quite well because you have a tone of fresh content. However once 80% of that content gets stale you begin to tale off.
Another suggestion which has come up more then once here is that Google does give you browny points for being a seasoned domain. Have a reputation so to speak. I feel that this is silly. Major venture capitalist may have built the best thing and bought a domain that is:
b: negatively marked. (opens doors, i realize, as iv heard Google also flags your domain if the content and structure has changed drastically and re-indexes you. another discussion)
c: a lesser competition may have by luck bought an old domain and rank more highly due to it. The site is rubbish in comparison
I would think it makes more sense just to have/start everyone off on the same ground and let them compete - fresh content back links etc... To mark you down for several months becasue you have a new domain seems unfair - a matrix where they work out ratio of dynamic content would be good. So your content has never changed so you get 1 point. Your content changes often over this 4 weeks you get 2 points. Your content gets lots of links you get 3 points (this irrelevant of whether you have a new or old domain - in this case if the algo is unrefined then you will do well on launch and experience the 'tail off effect'
). Having said that there is something to be said for a site that has been around for 4 years and consistently grown in both content, links and visitors. Still to drop someone for purely being a new domain could be refined.
Its also logical to assume that if your domain name and some pages have been indexed that you are out of the sandbox unless there is some kind of 'conditional sandboxing'. Meaning that you can be indexed somewhat but google applies some matrix that marks you down for certain things (God only knows what). If 'conditional sandboxing' does not excist
then it just means good old hard work to get the ranking you want - Sandbox then is an 'excuse'. But
trusted EGOL has had different experience and hard work wont get you out of the pit - you need
an reputable domain.
I have a client who says he is in the sandbox and his domain has been up and running for 6 months. He has got some backlinks loads of niche content and apparently no decent rankings are happening. So ill look into that. I have registered a domain with keywords in it. I have loaded some content and links to resources and ill continue to populate it. it has been up for 5 days - nothing so far. Iv also added google ads... which im have second thoughts about adding as i should have added that later on on the condition that indexing did not happen. Will see what happens.
Edited by saschaeh, 26 March 2008 - 03:59 AM.