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#1 cre8pc

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 09:50 AM

I am observing changes in my own habits and listening to people describe how they manage technology and the Internet.  I'm finding there is a retreat happening and wondered if it is just me or if you see it too.

 

After 19 years of being online, I now can only handle being logged in for about 6 hours a day.  It used to be an easy 18-20 hours, especially if I had a fun project or was on a knowledge quest.

 

Not only do my hands hurt (which worries me, as I had arthritis in my spine and knees), but my entire body seems to revolt.  I can feel it tensing up.  There doesn't seem to be a physical happy feeling anymore.  In other words, I feel pain, tension, anxiety and muscle jerks and the only way to stop it is to get off the computers - and cell phone.

 

I take walks, stretch, take breaks...which helps but has not helped me stay online longer.  Even my Kindle is bothering me and I noticed I make the choice to read a book or magazine that I can hold in my hands more often than picking up my Kindle.

 

I have some hardcore friends who refuse to use computers, microwaves and severely limit their cell phone usage because they believe these devices are hurting our bodies.  I make my living with computers and this is not an option.  I try to find balance.

 

That's one part of the experience.

 

I'm also hearing more people say they left Facebook or refuse to use it, or any site like it, because of how people treat each other.  Politics and religion are not topics that can be discussed on Facebook without people unfriending people and talks turning into flame wars.  There is little control over what we see, like those who post pictures of things that cause nightmares for most of us.  I am more and more in the habit of right clicking on images to tell Facebook I don't want to see that image or others like it.  I've done the same thing with conversations...in the past month or two it is getting to be a regular thing to do.  I really have no interest in what unbalanced, dysfunctional people put online.

 

I've listened to discussions with adults who are afraid of the Internet and young people who are not concerned and put everything online.  For many people, every minute is recordable and sharable.   For others, they don't want to see or hear about it.  With little in the way of sorting, choices are slim.

 

I see and hear about various calls by healers trying to get people outside.  Lay down their devices.  Take off their shoes.  Connect with the planet rather than connecting with invisible waves coming from TV, radio and cell phone towers.

 

Have you had enough?  Does any of this mean anything to you?  Have your computer and technology use choices changed?



#2 bobbb

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

Yup!

 

I'll expand later after I contemplate what I want to say and what I shall say.



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 11:23 AM

I still have the interest and desire to work here continuously.  I have so many things that I want to write and make.

 

But, vision problems have shortened my work day.  (I think that these are unrelated to computer use.)   I also have problems keeping my attention on tasks and I gotta read stuff five times to get it.

 

If a new member joins with a nick of "scatterbrain" that might be me.  huh?



#4 bobbb

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 12:10 PM

some hardcore friends who refuse to use computers, microwaves and severely limit their cell phone usage because they believe these devices are hurting our bodies.

Extreme is also harmful. Maybe they have not been able to cope with it all. Like an alcoholic, or any other drug, the only way is to abstain. And because they believe these devices are hurting their bodies then they do. Doctor heal thyself. Patient make thyself ill. All three are a boon. How did we live without microwaves?
 

For many people, every minute is recordable and sharable.

Really. Do they honestly think others really give a spit about everything they do? So you got up today, did the 3's and fed the cat/dog/fish/reptile. (for women who don't legs every day, that is 2's)

FB and others are useful for some things like trips, keeping relatives up-to-date, etc and a waste of time for the rest. The problem is those who spend their whole day at it. (see the healers below) Both FB and Twitter etc have changed and created events in the world. Good or bad depends on which side of the fence you are on :) The Berlin wall would have fell way before it did.
 

I see and hear about various calls by healers trying to get people outside.

That's easy. All they are saying is be more physically active. Pressing buttons does not count. ie: do soemthing else. In the past, the expression was "couch potatoe" (we only had TV). In Canada there is Participaction with no religous message. http://www.participaction.com/splash/ There is no reason for that 9-year old to be a candidate for the Pillsbury doughboy. (doughperson?) Have you noticed the TiVo has increased your time in front of the boob tube? So I did not get one and it limits my "boob tube" time to what is on now.

The test is simple. Can you go without coffee for a day or two, without alcholic drink, without a smoke (legal or not)? FB? Twitter? other SM? A keyboard? iGadget or facsimile? To be fair to all let's say while on vacation. And if you don't take vacations it says a lot too. It says you probably have lunch at your desk in the office.

You can get "hooked" on physical activity also and find it is not hard to be without gadgets for a few days and even the duration of a 3-week vacation. :) The last thing I want to see on vacation is a computer.
 

Have you had enough?  Does any of this mean anything to you?  Have your computer and technology use choices changed?

No! because it is what I do. Yes! of course. Yes! I dumped the phone and SM.

 

Yes, I've been so busy putting out a fire which left no time to eat. So I did without and when the pain hurt too much I left the office. The elevator ride down, walking to the eating court, eating, and the return regenerated the batteries. The excuse that you are to important/busy to be away says your company is badly managed and/or you have backed yourself into a position to be the scapegoat.


Edited by bobbb, 15 September 2014 - 12:25 PM.


#5 Grumpus

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 05:40 AM

I've thought about this quite a bit. For many years - long before it became an issue for anyone else. Keep in mind that I've had a computer since 1989 and had easy, free access to computers since 1980. I've been "online" since 1986 and even had my own online BBS system from 1991-1995 (with full FidoNet access and a nationally networked Tradewars 2002 game that had over 300 users at one point). I get up every morning and I still find joy in it all. How? Well, it's a bit of a trick, really - and probably wouldn't work for most people. This trick often makes people stare at me incredulously and say things like, "Dude, you're in the tech industry... how the hell can you not have a cell phone?"

 

Actually, I not only don't have an (active) cell phone, but I don't have a laptop, pad devices, or anything other than a desktop that I diligently replace every 3-4 years. (I "do" actually have a cell phone - 3 actually  - but I don't have a cell phone plan. They are just "web browsers" for making sure my designs are truly responsive - and one has a decent camera that I will use from time to time to easily take and upload photos). Anyway... the point is....

 

I've known for a long time that all of this was something that could easily "follow" me if I wasn't careful. The same is true with television - I don't have a TV in my bedroom. By not having a way to take my computer/Internet with me, I've never gotten into the habit of "always" having it with me. Working out of my house, it's always "there" but if an email comes in or whatever - I have to stand up and walk across the room to get to it. Or, if it's not during normal work hours, I may just as well decide it's not worth the trip right now and I'll look at it in the morning. The same idea works with texting and phoning. I get up at 4am and I sit here until at least 11am every day. Then I'll take the dog for a walk for an hour or so and I'll sit here again until 5pm (though I might be on the sofa watching last night's new Doctor Who episode that aired after I went to bed).

 

Why don't I have a cell phone? Well, I'm reachable abut 18-20 hours a day - why on Earth would I want to take a phone with me during the 4-5 hours a day when I'm getting away from that? Why don't I have a laptop or tablet? I'm sitting directly at my computer for at least 8 hours a day, and I'm within earshot for another 10. Having to get up and go see what's happening either a) makes me get up off my donkey or b) gives me a bit of separation so I'm not flipping through internet garbage when I could be watching TV, making dinner, or hanging out with friends in the back yard or down at the bar.

 

If a friend who happens to be a carpenter asks says: "Dude, you're in the tech industry... how the hell can you not have a cell phone?" The conversation proceeds as follows:
ME: "Let me borrow your hammer."
FRIEND: "What?"
ME: "Give me your hammer."
FRIEND: "I don't have a hammer on me right now."
ME: "Exactly."

 

I'm lucky (or gifted with extreme foresight, I'm not sure which). I never had to worry about this phenomenon of being connected 24-7. I've carefully managed my environment in a way where it's always "there" but, except for when I'm actually working/doing things online, it's never actually "right here." I'm not in the habit of getting a phone call or text or checking my facebook or emails when I'm not in my livingroom. When I stand up and walk away - it's away from me. I'm at it longer than most already, so I've made sure that it's easy to get up and walk away. The last thing a car mechanic wants to do is work on his car on the weekends. The last thing a carpenter wants to do is go home and work on his porch when he gets home from work. The last thing I want to do when I'm done work is to have it follow me around. Sorry.

 

G.



#6 Ken Fisher

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 11:00 AM


 

...and I gotta read stuff five times to get it.

Many times that doesn't even work for me. Give me a visual, notably video, and it's done.

 

Speaking of which...maybe Grumpus knows this answer as he seems very tuned into responsive. How do you make a background image responsive? I gave up...seen oodles of examples and they still don't work.


Edited by Ken Fisher, 16 September 2014 - 11:01 AM.


#7 bobbb

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:56 PM

Well I'm glad I'm not the only tech without a cell phone.

 

Hmmm seems when you get up I've just gotten to bed. :)



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 01:30 PM

Speaking of which...maybe Grumpus knows this answer as he seems very tuned into responsive. How do you make a background image responsive? I gave up...seen oodles of examples and they still don't work.

 

CSS3 has "background-size" http://www.w3schools...ground-size.asp

The trick there is because the image typically doesn't have a specific relationship to a specific screen width (it's the whole screen) it's you can't really do a "percentage value" the same way as a regular image. There is a "cover" (e.g. background-size: cover; ) value that you can use that will make your background image cover the space. I think this is probably why so many sites are using big background images that fill the screen nowadays rather than tiled smaller images. In theory, you COULD do it with some javascript trickery, or even some fancy resizing of the image using the GD library on the server, but I'm not sure the resource usage and overhead is worth the result. .



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 03:40 PM

Cover is my fave, as it's pretty simple. I've created an example page at http://www.donnafontenot.com/coverit/ . You can see the code by viewing the source, but also here is just the cover portion of the css that controls the full screen background image.

 

.cover {
background: url(jungle.jpg) no-repeat center center fixed;
-webkit-background-size: cover;
-moz-background-size: cover;
-o-background-size: cover;
background-size: cover;
}

There's other code to handle other responsive stuff, but that's all that's needed for the page background itself. As for the corresponding HTML, I just put this:

 

<body class="cover">

and that's it.



#10 Ken Fisher

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 04:09 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of a banner or smaller image, not a full page background. Reason being I can't get image slices to work right in all browsers. It's an issue I've been stuck with for weeks, so I just shelved it for awhile. Works great in Chrome, phones and tablets. But IE and Firefox no. I think I have a screenshot link here somewhere....Look at the header image. All links actually work but the IE and FF header goes off the screen.

 

http://www.browserst...d28e615bc960732

 

The reason for the background image is to link to the about & contact page in the header image. Whether not not that's going to work...I dunno..cause I could never get the header image to respond.

 

I took down the actual page but this is what I had with the slices..

 

<div class="fluid mobile-banner hide_desktop"><!-- Web Slices Mobile -->

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

    <tr>

        <td rowspan="2"><a href="../index.html"><img src="../images/button-home-mobile.jpg" alt="My Shower Door"></a></td>

        <td><a href="../about.html"><img src="../images/button-about-mobile.jpg" alt="About Us"></a></td>

    </tr>

    <tr>

        <td><a href="../contact-us.html"><img src="../images/button-contact-mobile.jpg" alt="Contact Us"></a></td>

    </tr>

</table>

<!-- End Web Slices -->

 

</div>

  <header class="fluid header hide_tablet hide_mobile"><!-- Web Slices Desktop -->

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">

    <tr>

        <td><a href="../index.html"><img src="../images/button-home-desk.jpg" alt="My Shower Door"/></a></td>

        <td><a href="../about.html"><img src="../images/button-about-desk.jpg" alt="About Us"/></a>

        <td><a href="../contact-us.html"><img src="../images/button-contact-desk.jpg" alt="Contact Us"/></a></td>

    </tr>

</table>

<!-- End Web Slices --></header>



#11 DonnaFontenot

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 04:18 PM

Ok, nm.

 

LOL, kidding.

 

Tables? Not something I would even attempt to guide you on. Generally, I'd say just add this to whatever class has the background image:

 

background-repeat:no-repeat;
background-size:contain;
background-position:center;

but I have no idea if that will work for a table based layout.

 

Also...instead of using just one large image that scales down (that would mean you'd always be loading large images on a mobile), you should consider changing to different images at various breakpoints, using media queries.



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 04:38 PM

but I have no idea if that will work for a table based layout.

 

Maybe DW should generate divs instead of tables with responsive......ooops...Photoshop does that with sliced images... I wouldn't know where to begin with divs. Wonder if they'd work better? But I struggle endlessly with them. Anybody care to translate those tables above into a div format?
 

 

background-repeat:no-repeat;
background-size:contain;
background-position:center;

 

I think I've tried every conceivable way to make it work...
 

Thanks for giving it some thought Donna



Guess I successfully hijacked this discussion :blushing:

 

Sorry Kim.





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