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#1 cre8pc

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 03:26 PM

I'm feeling partly serious and partly goofy asking this because most of the time I dislike predicting type of articles...but the membership here are both very smart and savvy and also know how to have fun with a topic, so here we go.

 

For whatever industry you work in, whether it is SEO, web design, social marketing, usability and everything related and in-between, what do you imagine 2015 to be like?

 

For me, I figure I will continue my mission of making websites work for all people while also being findable in search engines.  Because just doing one of those things, like SEO, would bore me and I have to make everything super complicated  :emo_gavel:  :emo_gavel: .  I would like to think that Google will get some major smack-down by Yahoo! and Bing because I miss the old days when there were OTHER search engines to play with.  

 

I'd like to stay in touch with all of you too, no matter what IMN decides to do with these forums and whether or not they keep me.  A member just got me into Ello.  Perhaps I can create a ruckus there.  

 

Finally, I think the stupid wall that separates usability and SEO will continue to crumble.  It's taken YEARS for people to get what I've been doing and writing about since 2001.  I need to write my book.

 

What about you all?   :wavey:

 

 



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Posted 10 December 2014 - 04:25 PM

In 2015 I will continue to watch the hometown professional (american) football team,  the Washington Skins or Washington Reds or Washington Redskins(a controversial name) continue to sink lower and ever lower.  Now firmly established as the worst franchise in all of professional sports, I anticipate they will sink still lower and lower.  

 

Its as if the commander of the submarine, said..."damn the mud--- dive dive dive--- lower still".   One who has watched this franchise over time cannot conceive how a franchise could get worse....but this team seems to find new ways to do so...sometimes on a daily basis.

 

Besides that I'll practice a little SEO.



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Posted 10 December 2014 - 05:13 PM

2015 will probably see me continue to cling on to a little hope and just about keep my head above water for long enough to fail again.



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 01:30 AM

I will do some certification course on 2015 and add more weight-age to my profile. 



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 06:52 AM

This isn't so much about what I am going to be doing (because I, like Kim, just continue my mission regardless of what's going on outside).

 

2015 is really going to be the year where things start to turn around again - in all areas of tech. For example, we've spent the last 3 decades trying to make TV's flatter and flatter. This year, it's all going to be bringing back some depth. In electronics, we've been going smaller and smaller and smaller, but this year is going to mark the trend to start going bigger again. We've already started to see the top-of-the-line phones going this route - trying to find a balance between portability and a screen size that you can actually work with. Things are going to kick into high gear now and by the end of this year we're going to see more "docking station" type things - being able to project our phone screen onto our Smart TV screen and having a proper keyboard that we can whip out in the house or car to type out texts and messages with something other than our thumbs.

 

Though it will take a few more years, interface design is going to be trickier than ever. In addition to standard mouse/keyboard and/or touchscreen interfaces, we're going to have dual display situations where one screen shows things and the other acts as your interface. One screen will act as the keyboard and mouse, but it will be an entirely different screen that outputs the results of your controls.



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 04:23 PM

Well 2014 was the year of "Finally Sorting Out My Sock Drawer" - that was last weekend - finally.

 

I haven't quite got to grips with the concept of another year looming up in a few weeks time!



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 08:36 PM

In 2009 I started a niche retail site selling a line of hobby-type products.  Stuff that I have used myself and know a bit about.  Things went well and I was on the first page of Google relatively quickly and was surprised at the immediate sales.  Also on the first page of Google were two large info sites, Amazon and a few other niche vendors who ran business that focused on this line of products and who had personal expertise at using them.  Bidding on PPC were a few niche businesses who knew something about their products.

 

Today, have things changed!   Now the two large info sites are still there.  Amazon, ebay, and wikipedia are there.  But the niche vendors are gone.  The other vendors on that page sell these niche products like commodities and probably don't know a damn thing about 'em and the people who work there have probably never used  one.   The PPC ads are full of megastores selling the cheapest crap that is so bad that I will not sell it out of fear of returns and complaints.    Mom and pop have been Penguined, Pandaed and Buttkicked.    MegaRetailers  selling junk merchandise like rotten potatoes are rolling along like tanks.

 

Ten years ago, I thought that the internet was going to be a place where I could search for "somekindof widget" and the first page of the search engine would contain links to a wonderful village of shops where enthusiastic people with expertise about their product had a gallery of stuff for sale and a treasury of tips and articles about how to use them.

 

What went wrong?

 

What I am going to do?  I have already stocked the site with more content than all of my retail competitors and the manufacturers combined.  I might be the only retail site near the top of the SERPs where people can actually ask a question and get a carefully considered answer about the products.  That has earned a rank in the SERPs at about #4 or #5.  There isn't a lot left to publish without stocking the site with egghead articles.  I guess my role is to be tech support for all of the people who buy from amazon, walmart,  target, and all of the other sites who sell pieces of junk and don't know a damn thing about the products.  Heck, you can't even find a email address or a phone number of their  sites to send them a question.  You only get people who are glad to take your order.


Edited by EGOL, 11 December 2014 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2014 - 09:06 PM

I am really hoping to write a book... I've written so much and it's all scattered around the web. I've been meaning to write a book for a few years and I think I just need to do that to avoid that "what if" feeling

 

Wish me luck :)


Edited by seosmarty, 11 December 2014 - 09:06 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:38 AM

I'll be doing as I've done in 2010, 11,12,13 and 14. Drinkin beer and riding my hog.

I now get my government benefits...which I've paid in over the years..so the internet stuff is just to keep me entertained.

 

oh and good luck marty :)


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#10 glyn

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 01:27 AM

Hoping that italy does a spain on g news for one:http://www.zdnet.com...pay-publishers/

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 07:54 PM

What I'm doing in 2015. Well there is a current 187 page rolling business plan (not including appendices)...
Not what you wanted? :D

* continue translating English language sites to Chinese.
* go live with more translated sites.
* continue Chinese advertising, affiliate pre-sell, etc. testing.

* continue bot defence testing.
* continue site marketing by unconventionally conventional means.
* increase advertising space rates.

* revise existing apps.
---especially to allow simple easy user modification/personalisation while retaining [sic] privacy.
* update (see above) complete and go live with remaining planned apps.
* continue visitor (x)device 'fingerprinting' ID testing and marketing.

* buy ASA (acetylsalicylic acid) stock and continue researching IPv6 and web (I18n) Internationalisation.
* continue researching/testing 'invisible' content tagging.
* continue copyright infringement efforts and costs recovery.

* buy more ASA stock and tackle learning Objective C++.
* understand and learn to use SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics).
* continue learning JavaScript and PHP

Good thing I'm semi-retired! Else I might be working. A lot. More.
We surely do live in interesting times.



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Posted 16 December 2014 - 06:50 AM

try to be a professional at my profession, plan to meet my school, college mate. would like to buy a new vehicle and have to spend some time with my parents lot so on......


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 11:49 AM

 Drinkin beer and riding my hog.

At the same time? :)



#14 glyn

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 09:09 AM

2015 is going to be one of the biggest years in online travel of the past 10 years, and I intend to put my company right at the centre of those changes.

 

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:31 AM

In 2009 I started a niche retail site selling a line of hobby-type products.  Stuff that I have used myself and know a bit about.  Things went well and I was on the first page of Google relatively quickly and was surprised at the immediate sales.  Also on the first page of Google were two large info sites, Amazon and a few other niche vendors who ran business that focused on this line of products and who had personal expertise at using them.  Bidding on PPC were a few niche businesses who knew something about their products.

 

Today, have things changed!   Now the two large info sites are still there.  Amazon, ebay, and wikipedia are there.  But the niche vendors are gone.  The other vendors on that page sell these niche products like commodities and probably don't know a damn thing about 'em and the people who work there have probably never used  one.   The PPC ads are full of megastores selling the cheapest crap that is so bad that I will not sell it out of fear of returns and complaints.    Mom and pop have been Penguined, Pandaed and Buttkicked.    MegaRetailers  selling junk merchandise like rotten potatoes are rolling along like tanks.

 

Ten years ago, I thought that the internet was going to be a place where I could search for "somekindof widget" and the first page of the search engine would contain links to a wonderful village of shops where enthusiastic people with expertise about their product had a gallery of stuff for sale and a treasury of tips and articles about how to use them.

 

What went wrong?

 

What I am going to do?  I have already stocked the site with more content than all of my retail competitors and the manufacturers combined.  I might be the only retail site near the top of the SERPs where people can actually ask a question and get a carefully considered answer about the products.  That has earned a rank in the SERPs at about #4 or #5.  There isn't a lot left to publish without stocking the site with egghead articles.  I guess my role is to be tech support for all of the people who buy from amazon, walmart,  target, and all of the other sites who sell pieces of junk and don't know a damn thing about the products.  Heck, you can't even find a email address or a phone number of their  sites to send them a question.  You only get people who are glad to take your order.

This is an interesting historical perspective.



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Posted 17 December 2014 - 07:46 PM

How come travel will be so big?



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Posted 17 December 2014 - 08:19 PM

How come travel will be so big?

 

Lots of reasons...   People in Spain will go to Portugal or France a couple times per week to read the news.   Everybody in Cuba will be moving to Florida.  Every fat cat in the USA will fly to Cuba for cigars.  All of the old hippies with be takin' MJ vacations.   Probably the main reason is that the price of oil has dropped and jet fares and uber rates should follow.


Edited by EGOL, 17 December 2014 - 08:22 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:56 AM

Google will launch a proper travel product and OTAs will start getting shafted by them. Tech costs will allow hotels compete on same terms, in the EU there will be more regulation about fixed rates and contractual terms, and of course I will be helping a few of these hotels to clean up.



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 11:50 AM

Work with psychedelic drugs (namely MDMA) that actually help instead of paying Big Pharma for worthless antidepressants...and hanging out on the darkweb.

 

You may actually see the real me in 2015. I haven't seen him in 38 years



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:34 PM

hm....travel, cigars, mj holidays, psychedelic drugs....my question-->  does somebody think 2015 will be the '60's????



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:39 PM

does somebody think 2015 will be the '60's???

 

History has a way of repeating itself.  Should I send up pictures of me and my suede fringe coats and fringe boots, hippie bag, hippie headband....yup.  I don't think I ever left that time, with the brief exception of being a punk rocker in the 80's where I had a crew cut and danced all night in punk bars.

 

Oh, and I used to twirl around at Grateful Dead concerts in my tie died clothes and bangles on my ankles but even my kids don't believe those stories.... :dazed:  :saywhat:



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 11:04 AM

I had a crew cut and danced all night in punk bars.

Got any pics to share?



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 11:15 AM

I was too poor to own a camera.  There was one picture of me when my hair was growing out that was used when I was Editor in Chief of my college newspaper but its packed away somewhere.  I still remember me and my friends crammed into a car (before seatbelts), all decked out with crazy clothes and smelling like cheap perfume.  

 

You wouldn't believe the stories I have from my free spirit days.  The greatest nights ever were on dance floors!



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 01:33 PM

I spun records in fron of crowds up to 2.5k in the. 90s!

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 05:04 PM

As long as we're going back...anyone remember the 70's? 'Incense and peppermints' that's when times were good..the drugs back then were so good I don't remember any of the 80's, for that matter not much of the 90's either. 

 

all decked out with crazy clothes and smelling like cheap perfume.

 

reminds me of turtle necks and big donkey bell bottoms. 



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Posted 22 December 2014 - 03:35 PM

Above I proffered a personal 2015 forecast; herewith a Google web oriented view:
* increasing - driven by Google - 'suggestions' that https is the way to go.
While all of us, I think, agree that user input pages should be secure the 'hints' are increasing that all web traffic between client and server should be such.

I see two primary reasons for Google to want this:
1. the required certificates (albeit historically prevalent to being hacked) add a layer of site identification.
2. the advent of HTTP/2, which while designed to accommodate HTTP1.1 and/or non-secure traffic is based upon a Google initiative preferring secure traffic.



* increasing 'bubblisation' of results aka localisation by increments.
---Filter Bubbles And Your Personal Funhouse Mirrors, DCrx, Cre8, 15-May-2011.

This is driven by the fact that people buy what they identify with so personalisation and localisation increasingly drive ad delivery value. Great for advertisers not so much for information seekers.

* continuing conversion of organic search from search content to search backfill for Google 'answers', Google properties, and Google partners.

This means that depth and breadth and originality of site content are increasingly keys remaining in search index. It also means the greater the organic symbiosis between site ranking and site providing data for Google's 'answers'.
Note: this is still primarily an English language/North American search effect.



* North America is to put it simply Google saturated.
Note: this is why Google walked away from strict exact match - it was having trouble filling orders.
Only ~55% of single year dotcoms are being renewed. The easy entry golden years of AdSense riches are a memory. The competition, as earlpearl has oft noted, is increasingly brutal. And he has experience and knowledge. And is increasingly paying not simply relying on organic. Unless one can broaden one's revenue base it is increasingly hard slogging, especially for newcomers. And I expect it to get worse.


* Google will continue to emphasise non-North American search (which have been the largest share of Google revenue for a while now) as that is where they face the greatest hazards (EU privacy concerns, Yandex, Baidu, etc.) as well as the greatest profit.

 

 



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Posted 22 December 2014 - 05:09 PM

'suggestions' that https is the way to go.

 

I would go this way but I hear that adsense performs poorly on https pages.... I wonder if google has this figured out yet.



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Posted 22 December 2014 - 05:32 PM

I would go this way but I hear that adsense performs poorly on https pages.... I wonder if google has this figured out yet.

It is not so much that AdSense performs poorly as that there is very little AdSense being served securely ... remember that to be fully compliant aka no warnings of unsecure HTTP every page source needs to be HTTPS. Given that most HTTPS to date has been on eCommerce sites mainly interested in selling their own stuff rather than ads there is little HTTPS ad inventory ... SO... needs more HTTPS sites to attract HTTPS advertisers while need more HTTPS advertisers to make non-eCom sites worth developing... SO... start up the Google ranking factor and 'not secure site' mentions in results rumours to jumpstart things...



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Posted 22 December 2014 - 05:48 PM

Per IamLost from above:

 

* North America is to put it simply Google saturated.
Note: this is why Google walked away from strict exact match - it was having trouble filling orders.
Only ~55% of single year dotcoms are being renewed. The easy entry golden years of AdSense riches are a memory. The competition, as earlpearl has oft noted, is increasingly brutal. And he has experience and knowledge. And is increasingly paying not simply relying on organic. Unless one can broaden one's revenue base it is increasingly hard slogging, especially for newcomers. And I expect it to get worse.

Hm...these days I view google as an ad machine that also offers organic search.   Is it more pronounced in the local arena?  I wouldn't know, but its ferocious in local...and it has to be very profitable for Google.

 

The other day in local it was made "more public" that google had moved much of its "local phone customer service to India from the US and that assistance for local listings was more difficult"

 

The article drew many unhappy comments from local seo practitioners and business people.  Its more difficult to get problems resolved and corrected.  Meanwhile earlier that day I had spoken with my friendly google adwords advisor, whose goal that day was to get me to make some changes that would increase adwords ctr's.  (my goal was to cut adwords costs----our goals and google's goals had parted ways   ;)   )

 

It turns out that while google had cut costs and service for free local visibility and customer service by off shoring this help to India...my adwords "buddy" had enjoyed a free google breakfast, a free google lunch, and while we were speaking received some free google swag.   Therein lie the priorities.

 

BTW:   Google changed the way it shows local restaurants in the US fairly recently:   Take a look at two identical searches for restaurants in Washington DC;   one from google.com and one view from Canada;  Google.ca

pigeon us restaurant search.gif google ca search for restaurants dc.gif

 

The main US search now gives a couple of restaurants without links, phone numbers or addresses:   Not helpful at all.   The search from google.ca shows what google is presenting in Canada and Europe, and used to show in the US...infinitely more helpful and informative.

 

In my mind, incredibly arrogant change.  It scarcely drew a comment from the universe of Search Engine writers.   

 

Hey its all about cutting organic traffic and setting up a world that demands a spend on Adwords to get visibility.  Incidentally the US restaurant industry doesn't spend much on google relative to other industries:  We'll see how that evolves.

 

Its a tough business world.  In the US google is immensely powerful, seems to be government protected, has become one of the largest lobbyists in the US, spending among the largest businesses, and giving increasingly more money to both political parties.   I don't see them being "taken down" in the US any time soon.

 

Back to basics:

 

Frankly on exact match I tend to think they made the change simply to garner more adwords clicks.  Its about scale.  That little change spurred millions or tens of millions of more ads showing for more diverse clicks and more ads.

 

 

One of our verticals (business type) is part of a larger realm where the adwords cpc is extremely expensive and the competition is fierce.  We are actually at the less expensive edge of that industry vertical.   Frankly in that vertical clicks and leads are incredibly valuable and if a sale is made there are a lot of revenues against the cost per click.   

 

So the prices are high.  Competition is fierce as IamLost referenced.  

 

For a while in local I thought I was on a winning streak.  With increasingly tougher ways to "win organically" I think I've been on a "losing streak" against google for several years.  Its a tough tough environment.

 

 



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Posted 22 December 2014 - 07:29 PM

It is not so much that AdSense performs poorly as that there is very little AdSense being served securely

 

Thanks for sharing all of these details. 

 

SO... start up the Google ranking factor and 'not secure site' mentions in results rumours to jumpstart things...

 

Those rats. :-)



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Posted 23 December 2014 - 05:20 AM

Thinking of opening a pub/restaurant lol.. I'm not joking hehehe..

 

In 96 I built my first commercial site for a client so I'll be 1 year off 20 years working commercially on the internet.. Should start talking to "normal people" hence the pub/food place idea.. 

 

I have 3 snowboarding trips booked (work for a snowboarding client so work/fun) BUT need to recover from torn ligament in ankle.. 

 

Web wise I have 1 major project booked in for Jan and another that's not signed off.. 

 

Good luck to all in 2015 :D



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Posted 23 December 2014 - 06:58 AM

Earl i think google are shaping the travel product with these changes, then boom it will roll out and devastate!

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 10:34 AM

I am going to devote more time to my 3 main sites with the hope I can finally make a little money again with art and the sites.
After 3+ long years of caring for elderly parents I now have full days to use as needed.
My focus will be developing the nice clean scaleable Wordpress theme I have just now started.
 

I think (hope) Bing is will be growing and more people will use it.  

I also think more people will be moving toward buying local and from my experience local search is easier, at least in our market.

We are going to focus on local and regional marketing, business to business (wholesale and consignment) and maybe select shows.

Hopefully our newly elected public officials here in the US will find a way to stimulate job growth which translates into more business for everyone, SEO's included.
When people are not working or not bringing in a good wage, and businesses are cutting back they do not spend as much money on decorative and functional art or wedding favors or website development.

 



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Posted 27 March 2015 - 01:40 AM

We'are almost 3 months in to 2015, how are you all doing?

 

The year still has 9 months left, I hope it's not yet late to answer. we certainly look forward to helping more and more people in creating and/or progressing their websites.

 

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edited out self-promotion, site link


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Posted Yesterday, 05:57 AM

 does somebody think 2015 will be the '60's????

 

I've often thought many of those old hippies must be getting bored, now that most are at  retirement age. Why shouldn’t they revisit their youth and get a little nutty again? I suppose their kids and grandkids would not understand though. They have to be the rock eh? Ones to look up to.
 
Ah, I always see things different.


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Posted Yesterday, 01:46 PM

Professionally, since I asked this question, I've buried myself in education.  Since I've never been certified, I decided to get those pieces of paper that some people seem to need to see as proof I have skills, despite having been working in both SEO and UX for 20 years.  Because of the emphasis on mobile devices I picked up certification in Bootstrap 3.  Understanding the code makes it easier to customize WordPress Responsive templates that are based on it.

 

In my free time, since I returned to horse riding again, I have a really fun project I'm involved with.  

 

My mother was an equestrian, so as soon as we were old enough, she began teaching my sister and I how to ride.  My mom gave riding lessons at two stables so I got free lessons.  We eventually had our own horses on our own farm and I trained at a large stable next to ours.  We showed every weekend and that's how I lived my life until age 22 when my life with horses ended.  At the age of 54 I reconnected with my trainer, as did my sister, and we have been volunteering at her stable, which is about 15 minutes from my house.  Kate, my trainer, has devoted her life to horses.  Her stable always has about 30 - 40 horses, including mares with foals, and boarders.  She is partnered with an organization called Turning from Home.  TFH gets racehorses that no longer race, either from injury or they are not winning races.  These young Thoroughbreds are about 4 years old and up, and cheap to buy once they are rehabbed.  That's where I help.  I work with the racehorses.

 

One of them came to the farm with a badly injured hoof.  His name is Quiet Rally.  His sire is the famous racehorse, Real Quiet, who lost the Triple Crown in the USA literally by a nose years ago.  Rally was "claimed" about 16 times at the track.  This means that people would invest in him, take him to their stable, race him and get the money he earned.  To keep him racing he was pumped up with pain killers to hide a terrible incident where a farrier put a shoe on him and the nails went into his leg.  When I met him he was unable to use that foot and was using the other other front leg so much the fear was he would wreck that leg too.  I was told he would likely be put down.

 

I picked up training in Reiki healing last year and am certified in Reiki II.  It's a Japanese form of healing where you place your hands on certain parts of the body or in the case of animals, their bodies.  I am more comfortable working on animals then people, and so I asked Kate if I could perform Reiki on Rally.  Two days later the Vet said his hoof had healed a great deal and not long after that he was walking with no limp.  He and I also bonded.  He comes when I call him.  I fell in love with him.

 

I'm allowed to buy him and train him for show, jumping, dressage, whatever I want.  For now, I'm getting my own body back into riding shape and working with Rally on how to not be a racehorse.  

 

The stable is going to provide equine therapy too.  I'm one of the founding members, in charge of the business side as well as marketing, a website, and getting the business set up.  The methodology is based on something called Egala.  My sister works in the mental health field, specifically addiction to drugs and alcohol.  We have other staff members who are certified and getting certified.  The program is where horses are used for healing.  We will have Vets with PTSD, kids suffering from various traumas...all kinds of exciting stuff.  

 

This is what I'm doing.  Another thing...I want to teach myself how to create a mobile application.  When a client is in the ring with a horse or horses, there are two staff people with them.  They take notes during the session on specific things.  Record keeping is expected.  I want to create a way they can do this on a tablet or smart phone and we would keep the information in database.

 

These things keep me interested in learning and provide reasons to stay in the tech field.  



#37 iamlost

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Posted Today, 10:11 AM

Sheesh. Enough already!

'R' programming language just jumped the queue. This is truly going to hurt but the agony has become absolutely necessary. So I've put ObjC++ on back burner and 'R' right up front.

What is 'R' you ask? The world’s most widely used statistics (aka data analysis and graphical visualisation) programming language. And it's open source.
Note: coursera.org is offering upcoming 4-week online courses.
Note: for EGOL and other Google Analytics fans: A quick guide to R and Google Analytics by Matt Clarke, Tech Pad, 07-March-2012.
Note: Microsoft has recently acquired Revolution Analytics which has and is developing "R+", a proprietary enterprise version of 'R'.

'R' resource quick links:
* The Comprehensive R Archive Network
* The R Project for Statistical Computing
* What is R?
* R FAQ

* Programming in R For Dummies

Where is the one language to do it all?



#38 bwelford

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Posted Today, 03:11 PM

I guess it's no longer sufficient to watch your Ps and Qs.  Now you have to keep an eye on your Rs.  :)





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