Why Doesn't Cre8 Redirect To One Of The Versions?
Posted 01 May 2007 - 07:04 AM
I just looked and both homepages (cre8asiteforums.com) have PR5. Not that it matters, but it means that inbound links are split between the two. Why don't we setup a simple 301 redirect for this one?
I understand that this issue must have been discussed, but I didn't find the thread on the forum nor I really see how adding three lines to .htaccess can kill a forum from traffic, as, I believe, it has much more work to do already.
Thus, I see two reasons to implement a 301 www to non-www redirect.
First, we are an educational community and we should stand by our words and practice what we preach. Thus, a 301 redirect to one of the versions is what needs to be done, because we advise our members to do it - and we also do it for our own websites, so why not?
Secondly, when the search engines have a clear vision of only one version, they'll redirect the link weight from both versions to the single one (you knew this, didn't you?), so we'd get more traffic, in result. I can't see how more visitors, readers, members and, lastly, advertising revenue (and consequential Cre8 students) can hurt.
I'd say that the non-www version may be preferred, because it'd be easier to identify and remember. However, the choice of which version to go with isn't as important as actually doing something about it, so I am not that picky.
I have tested Cre8 with a John's www or non-www tool, which recommended the www version, because Yahoo didn't find any links to the non-www version, which seems a stretch to me, though. I don't think it is that important to pick a version for the SEs, because with time all links will be accounted for, anyway.
So, what do you think?
Posted 01 May 2007 - 07:23 AM
It should. I'd prefer the www version.
I'm going to ask our tech admins if they will set up a 301 for us.
Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:51 AM
Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:27 AM
Posted 01 May 2007 - 08:28 PM
On second thought, it'd be nice to roll out the 301 redirect after the PR update finishes (in a week?), so we'd get some statistics on the influence of one version redirect during the following months, when the SEs will be recalculating link value.
It'd make a good case study, I think. Of course, that's just a thought, not even a suggestion.
Yeah, those duplicate threads I've been noticing for a while:
- individual posts, other than threads
- lo-fi threads
- print views
all showing the same thread! Maybe there should be a default URL with minimum parameters, or something? Then again, it'd require some more work, than the redirect, eh?
Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:40 PM
If you've got a dedicated server or even a VPS, that would likely best be done in the httpd.conf file. Sure, you could do that in an .htaccess file, but that's not the best use of server/VPS resources. Or, as Ron Carnell explained at HighRankings at redirecting in httpd.conf:
... but the important thing to remember is that www.domain.com -- just like sub.domain.com -- is considered an entirely different entity than domain.com. A surfer or spider going to any of the three will receive the same 200 OK response code for a page request and won't readily be able to differentiate the domains.
The other important thing to realize, I think, is that in a more perfect world, we really don't want a Redirect sitting between domain.com and www.domain.com.
Posted 02 May 2007 - 12:03 AM
Posted 02 May 2007 - 12:06 AM
I've seen that kind of setup, but can't fathom why they'd do that.
Posted 02 May 2007 - 12:46 AM
Diane, what's the marketing perspective to use the non-www version? Shorter to read and relate or something different?
Posted 02 May 2007 - 12:57 AM
Posted 07 May 2007 - 03:23 AM
It has always irked me that the forum still has both versions, non-www and www.
In a desperate attempt to avoid procrastinating doing work (yes, I am one step away from procastinating ), I made it redirect.
Any problems, let me know.
Posted 07 May 2007 - 04:02 AM
Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:05 AM
Have the admins noticed any increase in search engine visitors?
Some info will be really appreciated
Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:32 AM
The forum exists to allow us all to talk. No one hear makes a living from the forum, so I guess it never really mattered as much as more esoteric measures like "how good are the discussions" and we are more driven by questions like "what areas need more work to improve the conversation" than "how do we get more numbers".
I guess we are a quality over quantity forum.
Sorry bout that!
Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:42 AM
Posted 12 June 2007 - 12:32 PM
Posted 12 June 2007 - 12:58 PM
Good ranks = new people = new content/ideas/opinions = me happy
Posted 12 June 2007 - 07:15 PM
And yes, more visitors means more new members, which is good for the forums and the discussions.
Other than that, I am not particularly interested in getting the #3 spot for some weird phrases, too.
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