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#1 JVRudnick


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:08 AM

Just posted my final post over at SEOChat...I've asked to be deleted as a member etc...and that I"m so sad that they couldn't improve that forum...that they couldn't do away with advert $ from snake-oil firms etc etc.

So...guess I'm "here" more....

LOL...maybe that's a good thing...dunno...but hi all!



#2 jonbey


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:10 AM


So, what's hot in SEO?

#3 RisaBB


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 11:29 AM

Hi Jim,

Glad you'll be here more often!


#4 iamlost


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 11:46 AM

I have always enjoyed your comments, Jim, here, there, and elsewhere. And I agree that it can be difficult and frustrating to find snake oil free SEO in advertisement or belief. On the plus side Cre8 can only benefit from your increased presence and commentary. :cheers:

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 01:41 PM

LOL, you're only a few years behind some of us left that place long ago. :)

We'll all be happy to see more of you here.

#6 Michael_Martinez


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 01:56 PM

Welcome back,
Your dreams were your ticket out.

Welcome back,
To that same old place that you laughed about.

Well the names have all changed since you hung around,
But those dreams have remained and they're turned around.

Who'd have thought they'd lead ya (Who'd have thought they'd lead ya)
Here where we need ya (Here where we need ya)

Yeah we tease him a lot cause we've got him on the spot, welcome back,
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.

Edited by Michael_Martinez, 16 August 2011 - 01:57 PM.

#7 SEOigloo


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Posted 16 August 2011 - 02:04 PM

Jim, eh!

I, for one, am delighted that you will be spending more time here. You're a Canuck and a Local Search crackerjack. What more could anyone ask for?

#8 Dr.Marie


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Posted 17 August 2011 - 10:11 AM

Woot! Glad to see you here Jim.

I learned so much in SEOChat...but it got to the point where I wasn't learning anything. I'm all for helping others, but there's no joy in explaining over and over again that forum sigs are not going to help you rank for the keyword, "online casino", building 1000 tiny domains that point to your main domain is a waste of time and not going to help your seo, and that buying hundreds of backlinks for $9.99 is not beneficial.

In here, there may not be as much traffic, but the content here is all really helpful.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 10:40 AM

Good choice, but you guyz don't get it. Why delete an established account?

THIS is the place to get decent non-one-liner answers. Always good for info. Top of your bookmarks list - no doubt.

THAT is the place to be visible to newbies. Whether you're aiming to do SEO for someone, or to build some random SEO street cred, or even to get a numptie or two to click on your sig link (hehe)... Seriously.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 11:25 AM

You're a Canuck and a Local Search crackerjack.


... I'll drink to that. You can't have too many Canucks. After all they're so polite. :)

#11 JVRudnick


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Posted 17 August 2011 - 04:55 PM

thanks one and all...so...to work!

been digesting Mike's great blog pieces over the past couple of days here - http://blumenthals.c...eported-closed/ - and it's interesting as hell to me.

I'm thinking here, that "if" a competitor wrote a simple script and had it run say once every 30 minutes and parsed the page for "Reported to be closed..." text snippet, it'd be pretty simple to just then have the script jump to the bottom, click on the "Report a Problem" link, have the script choose the second radio button and then Submit....to show any prospective searchers that this biz "could" be closed.

Would hurt (least as far as I can figure) ALL of our clients who are B2C types....in that "hey, maybe I better not buy/call/use this site to do some biz..." would come to mind and they'd jump to a "non-appearing" closed one.

Oh. Script. Would take me 10 min's to write, say 20 more to go and get a freehosting site that can run a CRON job and I'd be scott-free...my clients would own that channel as their competitors I just fixed with a phony "closed" sign...

Now, that's blackhat, sure...and I'm not into same...but there are prob thousands who are...and this same thought will occur to them...

So...maybe I'd better write the exact same script but have it click on the "Not true" button instead to keep my clients up and running....

But what about you all....has this occured to you? This is pretty elemental stuff...but I do wonder as to "why" Google allows this....it's rife with temptation for the blackhat community....



PS the official Googler answer is here - http://blumenthals.c...-google-places/ - but do read the answering response from Joey too!

PPS head-shake....Google....what'ya doing lads????

PPPS thanks too for the kind words one and all....now, it's beer time!

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:27 PM

Jim, variation(s) your little script idea already exist even rotating through local to target business proxies or zombies so as to appear random 'real' local users reporting. :)
+1 and G+ are also being increasingly abused... I hope G is learning from G+Personal or when G+Business rolls out it will be a bloody mess.

From my investigations and conversations Local is currently about as wide open 'wild west of the movies' as one can get. And most, by far, of what is happening was/is blatently obvious - much as your script idea - to everyone except, apparently, Google. And with a minutes worth of thought most have equally obvious solutions except, again apparently, to Google. I have never met a company that can so serially stub it's toe yet not modify the self-inflictive behaviour. I think they need to hire a few mothers to keep an eye on all the oblivious engineers.

#13 JVRudnick


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Posted 18 August 2011 - 04:12 PM

IAM...bout the same way I see things, lad....

so...yeah, till they finally "do" see things...we're all at risk...well, my clients anyways...



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Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:40 PM

I'm about done with forums altogether.

Just not as "fun" as it used to be.

But I still poke around from time to time. That's how I found this :(

Cheers all.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:00 PM

I like SEOChat because I have some good friends there and I enjoy the rowdy threads. However, there is absolutely no quality control and automated/manual posts from spammers waste too much of a person's time. Lots of trolls and weasels. I spend very little time there these days.

I like cre8asite because there is virtually no spam, discussions are very high quality, posters are very generous, I get great advice and the discussions range to almost any aspect of running a website. In comparison to SEOChat it is a bit sleepy because the population of posters is a lot lower. This place has been abnormally active the past few weeks with lots of great discussions. Perhaps this is the beginning of a trend?

I like SEOmoz Q&A because a lot of people with potential post there and I enjoy helping them. They post really good questions and I have changed my mind about a few SEO topics by reading the discussions. Very little spam, very few weasels or trolls.

Jim, I hope you start lots of threads here. Looking forward to reading your posts.

Edited by EGOL, 18 August 2011 - 09:01 PM.

#16 JVRudnick


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:10 PM

@Josh...yup, found it you did...and pls DO stay around...I like your take on SEO, eh!

@Egol...thanks! muchly appreciated....and as my latest post offers...sigh...I'm back in the game, eh!



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