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#1 cre8pc

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 07:14 AM

This is fun...

 

I was thinking, while reading this, if some genius at Google has come up with a way to create an empathetic search algorithm.  For example, when the search terms "Do I take aspirin or Tylenol" and the search engine responds with "Tell me how you are feeling and I can help you better."

 

 

So how do we cultivate empathy, how do we make sure that empathy is enhanced in our society and also in the development process of these new products and services?

If today’s software engineers are creating the A.I. consciousness of tomorrow, you would want it to have the capacity for intelligent, emotional interactions and relationships. It doesn’t seem unreasonable that a machine would have an acute emotional component

 

 

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE AGE OF EMPATHY

 



#2 EGOL

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:12 AM

"Tell me how you are feeling and I can help you better."

Google has no business in dispensing medical advice.

#3 cre8pc

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:18 AM

Google has no business in dispensing medical advice. 

 

 

But they do. So does YouTube.  When someone has a symptom they go in search of an immediate answer.  Some of us brought this up with Knowledge Graphs. 

 

With my 2 knee replacements I found "advice" in searches, YouTube, online forums and blogs on pain medication (what to take, when, how much) and PT exercises. With the PT they didn't say when to do what, (like how many weeks), so it's possible that people might do something too soon, especially if they can't afford PT and are doing it at home on their own.



#4 bobbb

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:25 AM

The other side of that coin.

 

Google is so big, it is now Shaping Policy to Combat the Opioid Epidemic. And it’s screwing it up
https://theintercept...pioid-epidemic/
 

A snap decision by Google has begun to reshape the drug treatment industry, tilting the playing field toward large conglomerates — the precise opposite outcome Google had hoped to achieve.

They could be having a similar effect in other fields



#5 iamlost

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:14 PM

Rubbish.
Sorry, but total rubbish.

If today’s software engineers are creating the A.I. consciousness of tomorrow, you would want it to have the capacity for intelligent, emotional interactions and relationships. It doesn’t seem unreasonable that a machine would have an acute emotional component. Our society could not survive if our empathic abilities: goodwill, humanity, and altruism were removed from our human experience, so why should we remove these abilities from a machine?

Today's software engineers are NOT creating AI let alone 'the AI consciousness' of anytime in the foreseeable future.

Yes, it DOES seem unreasonable that a machine would have ANY emotional component.

We can NOT remove what it does NOT have.

The author is anthropomorphising something that does not and will not anytime soon exist to fit an agenda, and doing so extremely badly.

#6 bobbb

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:40 AM

I hear you on this. One needs to remember all this "AI" krap is in embryonic stage or earlier. It's what is called AI today... and the operative word is artificial... this AI is running a lot of our lives today whether we like it or not or even realise it. Even Wikipedia says it is artificial.
 

Colloquially, the term "artificial intelligence" is applied when a machine mimics "cognitive" functions that humans associate with other human minds, such as "learning" and "problem solving".

So as long as these mechanical things do anything close to that it will be called artificial intelligence.

A l-o-o-o-ng time ago what was called medicine was bloodletting and other practices of the same type. Barbarians! I can just wonder what doctors in 200 years will think about state of the art medicine of the early 21st century. I'm sure they will consider us barbarians... and in 200 years or so later they will be the barbarians. Of course this is presuming we humans make it there.

Punched cards and paper tape were, at one time, state of the art computing. I remember "programming" (wires) an IBM 407 Accounting Machine and a 1401 "computer". All which will fit on a watch today and an implanted chip in humans of the future. This was artificial intelligence of its time. It wasn't even intelligent.

I wonder what we will do when a car kills a human? 25 years hard labour.... hmmm a car which will last 25 years?

 

I forgot the thread title was" Ai and Empathy. A long way from the empathy part.


Edited by bobbb, 24 October 2017 - 10:47 AM.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 03:02 PM

"AI" has become a buzzword of people trying to fake intelligence.



#8 cre8pc

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:08 AM

So what you're all saying is that I need to stop watching Sci-Fi shows like Dark Matter and Humans where the robots are programmed to be more human-like.   :blushing:



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:55 AM

I'm not saying that exactly except on the  empathy part. I agree it's a buzz word and everyone wants "in". Everyone wants in on "cloud" too. Me too. Me too. Marketing at work.

 

It's artificial intelligence or as above fake intelligence: a programmable thing which can perform human-like things as per the Wikipedia definition of AI. It's a program in a specialised "computer" like my DVR or a smart TV. It looks and feels intelligent. Even in the older days people equated IBM machines with electronic brains and thus artificial intelligence.

 

When and if we reach "AI consciousness" then we better start to be scared. There is no Asimov in real life with his 3 rules. Safety protocols are off. They delay the rush to market anything.

 

Just look at this video:

from http://www.businessi...hen-in-action-7

It's a robotic kitchen. It's Star Trek. It's a program.

 

Doesn't that look intelligent?   ...and it cleans up after.


Edited by bobbb, 26 October 2017 - 10:23 AM.


#10 iamlost

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:50 AM

So what you're all saying is that I need to stop watching Sci-Fi shows like Dark Matter and Humans where the robots are programmed to be more human-like.

Not at all. Sci-fi is critical for two things (besides an entertaining story and pure escapism):
1. it probes the boundary between what is and pure fantasy. It posits what might be, which is the first step to making something real.
2. it discusses the good and the bad possibilities given various human behaviours, which, given today's release early and often philosophy, could be a critical preemptive backstop to problems. At the very least it allows one to say 'told you so' as everything goes pear shaped.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:09 AM

Just saw this today...Sophia the robot. Guess those oil sheiks have enough dough to play with

 

 

 



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 02:39 PM

But is she allowed to drive a car before next summer?

 

Does Saudi robot citizen have more rights than women?
http://www.bbc.com/n...ending-41761856





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