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I wish there was just one law for all of the above. It seems so many people do not think that just because they are online, they can get away with crap. What peeves me even more is when a place that does do something as a computer type crime (example: DDOS on a server thats located in the states, but the person doing the attack is in another country without cyber laws). What is wrong with people, I am still trying to figure out how we can have any normalcy if we are all playing by different rules.

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WEll, there are two mainstream schools of thought...

"the net is freedom - why should people all over the world bow down to the rules and governance of someone, somewhere?"

"the net needs policing and could/should be the first place for joint efforts at global protocol".

 

I'm of the latter... I agree with you that there are certain things that should be jumped on no matter what... the net has removed so many boundries... and yet there is no internet police for such things (though goverments may have their own net army?).

 

Yet... and it is a big yet... whose rules should we all be following?

The USA's.. China's... the Ukrains... Yours... mine... the squirrel round the corner (hope not, he's a tyrant!).

Not easy.

Considering we cannot get more than 3 countries to sit at a table without the risk of warefare of late (either from one of hte three, or due to it being perceived a as threat/insult to someone not at the table), there is little chance of any real agreement or cohesion.

 

Doesn't human nature simply make you feel ashamed?

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I tend more toward the Autocrat thought. Whose rules do we follow? Well you have to follow those of your jurisdiction or the one you are in at any one moment.

 

That is the way things are. They have never changed and never will.

 

I can have cuban cigars and can visit Cuba. Most people south of my position cannot. Who is right?

 

People where I am and problably all that read this can get up on a soap box and say that "I think the leader of my country is a @#$%^&*" and more.

 

I would not recommend that in a lot of places. We know where those places are. Who is right?

 

In some places in Europe you can (or could) buy a joint in a shop. This could get you shot in other places. Who is right?

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The Internet is a double-edged sword. It has brought so many conveniences to our lives, but at the same time turned otherwise well behaved people into unsavory ones. The anonimity, lack of accountability, lack of laws, lack of enforcement on a global scale, I think, is the primary reason. Its a happy, yet at the same time, sad place. I don't see that changing any time soon.

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In a country in the middle-east the government imposes a filter on all the 'bad' sites, at least, they were doing that a few years ago -- not sure whether it is still the case. 'Bad' in this case, as far as I know, referred exclusively to pornographic sites.

 

A few years ago I was frustrated at the futility of trying to prevent my own kids from being exposed to the evils of the internet. In this case, I was more worried of online predators than pornography.

 

Now, online predators do not hit the radar at all, as far as I am concerned. I think the school, newspapers and normal social life equips them to watch out for this, themselves. Instead, I now tend to preach about the different types of online scams.

 

I think we have adapted and are adapting (quite admirably in fact) to the pros and cons of the internet. This is happening on a continuous basis. I think adaptation is the only salvation we can hope for.

 

The evil of the internet will never disappear -- it will always be there, in my opinion. Even in the unlikely event that all nations unite, and succeed in enacting a single set of internet laws, the bad guys will continue to be there, as in everything else. Also considering the very nature of the internet, it is just about the best possible breeding ground for the unsavory.

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'Bad' in this case, as far as I know, referred exclusively to pornographic sites.
And we would have to define that word. I bet there is a wide variance in that defintion from places like Saudi Arabia, France, and the mid west (Canada or USA).

 

55 years ago bureaucrats at US post and Canada post decided that Hugh Hefner's monthy magazine did not past the test. They were declared wrong.

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